Flat raise for gains at value not enhanced losses
Friday, May 16th, 2008Strange flat raise by chef on the river here. I’ll attempt to explain why. If he is beaten (eg by me holding a 10, or an 8 or something) he has either just lost himself an extra 400 for nothing, or he has opened himself up to a reraise, where he could lose even more than the extra 400 if he feels obliged to call at value.
You are unable to justify this risked loss with any potential gain, as no legitmate scenario exists where he could actually gain 400 from the bet. Every hand worse than his bare ace kicker is going to fold to the raise.
Basically, calling on the river is the one and only option for villain. I didnt have the heart to box-his-ears and point this out to him though
Seat 1: ghost (8176 in chips)
Seat 2: tron (6536 in chips)
Seat 3: Flouder (8540 in chips)
Seat 4: BlueS (6165 in chips)
Seat 5: OTIS (1625 in chips)
Seat 6: ONLYINA (5450 in chips)
Seat 7: “Speedyfold” (10909 in chips)
Seat 8: chef (14915 in chips)
Seat 9: asif (8304 in chips)
50 ante each
“Speedyfold” : posts small blind 200
chef : posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to “Speedyfold” [4c Ah]
Folded around
Speedy: calls 200
chef: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd Tc 8h]
Speedy: checks
chef: checks
*** TURN *** [Jd Tc 8h] [Jh]
Speedy: checks
chef: checks
*** RIVER *** [Jd Tc 8h Jh] [Ts]
Speedy: bets 400
chef: raises 400 to 800
Speedy: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chef: shows [As 4s] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
Speedy: shows [4c Ah] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
